just to let you know,I never heard anything back from them :)
Had another ticket coming back from England last December from another funeral(Aunt),this was in Dumfries, I called the number on the NIP and advised them the above, the idiotic civilian I spoke to informed me they were to still proceed with action against me.
Early in February 2 coppers came knocking at my door in regards to this alleged infraction, luckily I was upstairs and spoke to them from a window, the 2 knob heads were awfully full of themselves advising I 'needed' to come down and speak to them, I advised things I 'need' are oxygen, food, clothing and shelter and that "you're trespassing, now kindly leave my property ",I think fuck off were the exact words, knobhead 1 retorted that "there is no Trespass Law in Scotland", I advised as you're here to enforce policy, shove this down your throat, Trespass Act Scotland 1865, now fuck off before I come down there and beat you like you're Dad would!Have not heard anything since, watch this space!
For future reference, should anyone else want to use this, here is what I sent to the Council issuing the PCN, notice I am not executing my Common Law rights, but using their own bollox against them. :)
"I have received documentation from your organisation in regards to a Penalty Charge Notice issued on the 15th January 2021, I have called into your organisation this morning and spoke with a nice gentleman called XXXXXXXXXX who advised me to contact you via email.
I am writing asking for proof or evidence of which you can rely on in a court of law of whether section 144, Transport Act 2000, Bus Lane Contraventions (penalty Charges, Adjudication and Enforcement) (England) Regulations 2005 supersedes the English Bill of Rights 1688, whereby it states that, "That all Grants and Promises of Fines and Forfeitures of particular persons before Conviction are illegal and void.” This is in direct breach of my rights, as far as I can see there is zero provision in the act this PCN has been issued whereby it states unequivocally, said act supersedes the English Bill of Rights 1688.
In regards to your infraction, I will take this as a procedural error on your part, unless substantial proof of which you can rely on in a court of Law, is submitted to me highlighting the fact that indeed this PCN is not in direct breach of my rights.
Please do not respond to me charting your processes with regards to issuance of PCN's, the question here is a very simple one, I will not entertain any diatribe that stems away from the question posed to your organisation.
I have attached the front and reverse side of the document sent to me within this email, it clearly shows that there are 5 mentions of fines, yet there has been no court action whereby I can defend myself in relation to the PCN. Do not even think that a court case will be proceeded with for me to even defend, as this will only highlight further matters, I wish right now to not disclose.
This is a breach of my rights.
If you deem that I am still to pay without providing a shred of evidence to support your assertion, then your organisation agrees to pay me £5000 in regards to the breach of my rights, of which I am entitled to enforce with reasonable methods.
Please confirm in your next correspondence if the matter is now closed?
Kind Regards
I will post the response once I hear back from them :)
As an aside, you can also use 'their' own statutes against them with regards to speeding tickets and penalty charge notices, in Scotland you can use the Claim of Right 1689 and down in England you can use the English Bill of Right 1688 to back off any so called traffic violation.
For Scotland this line kills their paperwork dead in the water, "That the Imposeing of extraordinary fynes The exacting of exorbitant Baile and the disposeing of fynes and forefaultors befor sentence are Contrary to law" and in England:-
"And severall Grants and Promises made of Fines and Forfeitures before any Conviction or Judgement against the Persons upon whome the same were to be levyed. All which are utterly directly contrary to the knowne Lawes and Statutes and Freedome of this Realme."
I used this in Scotland back in 2012, and currently have sent this to a Council in England after I got a bus lane violation ticket on my way to my brothers funeral, currently waiting to hear back from the swines!
In law there must be a cause, a cause is someone claiming you did something wicked so if you know u have not cause any wicked act, refusal for cause, no cause in law so with honour you return it back to them, never sign your name unless its first name only or like queen elizabeth R. Or thumb print thats yours also no one else has it
I verify all herein be true. This matter is now in true common law. Your offer to contract is hereby rejected with honor as unacceptable. I do not wish to contract nor do I consent to your jurisdiction. If you have a valid claim against the vessel or the estate you are authorized to do the set-off against the prepaid account as provided above, pay the taxes and tithes, setoff the public debt and return the estate to honour. Your failure to settle and close this matter within ten (10) days after receipt of this notice and provide me evidence of the transaction shall establish the evidence that your claim was NOT a valid claim.
By: first name
by the light of the ninth day of january two-thousand and thirteen nunc pro tunc to the first day of january two-thousand and thirteen
just to let you know,I never heard anything back from them :)
Had another ticket coming back from England last December from another funeral(Aunt),this was in Dumfries, I called the number on the NIP and advised them the above, the idiotic civilian I spoke to informed me they were to still proceed with action against me.
Early in February 2 coppers came knocking at my door in regards to this alleged infraction, luckily I was upstairs and spoke to them from a window, the 2 knob heads were awfully full of themselves advising I 'needed' to come down and speak to them, I advised things I 'need' are oxygen, food, clothing and shelter and that "you're trespassing, now kindly leave my property ",I think fuck off were the exact words, knobhead 1 retorted that "there is no Trespass Law in Scotland", I advised as you're here to enforce policy, shove this down your throat, Trespass Act Scotland 1865, now fuck off before I come down there and beat you like you're Dad would!Have not heard anything since, watch this space!
Nice one, looking forward to that.
For future reference, should anyone else want to use this, here is what I sent to the Council issuing the PCN, notice I am not executing my Common Law rights, but using their own bollox against them. :)
"I have received documentation from your organisation in regards to a Penalty Charge Notice issued on the 15th January 2021, I have called into your organisation this morning and spoke with a nice gentleman called XXXXXXXXXX who advised me to contact you via email.
I am writing asking for proof or evidence of which you can rely on in a court of law of whether section 144, Transport Act 2000, Bus Lane Contraventions (penalty Charges, Adjudication and Enforcement) (England) Regulations 2005 supersedes the English Bill of Rights 1688, whereby it states that, "That all Grants and Promises of Fines and Forfeitures of particular persons before Conviction are illegal and void.” This is in direct breach of my rights, as far as I can see there is zero provision in the act this PCN has been issued whereby it states unequivocally, said act supersedes the English Bill of Rights 1688.
In regards to your infraction, I will take this as a procedural error on your part, unless substantial proof of which you can rely on in a court of Law, is submitted to me highlighting the fact that indeed this PCN is not in direct breach of my rights.
Please do not respond to me charting your processes with regards to issuance of PCN's, the question here is a very simple one, I will not entertain any diatribe that stems away from the question posed to your organisation.
I have attached the front and reverse side of the document sent to me within this email, it clearly shows that there are 5 mentions of fines, yet there has been no court action whereby I can defend myself in relation to the PCN. Do not even think that a court case will be proceeded with for me to even defend, as this will only highlight further matters, I wish right now to not disclose.
This is a breach of my rights.
If you deem that I am still to pay without providing a shred of evidence to support your assertion, then your organisation agrees to pay me £5000 in regards to the breach of my rights, of which I am entitled to enforce with reasonable methods.
Please confirm in your next correspondence if the matter is now closed?
Kind Regards
I will post the response once I hear back from them :)
nayga73
hi guys,
As an aside, you can also use 'their' own statutes against them with regards to speeding tickets and penalty charge notices, in Scotland you can use the Claim of Right 1689 and down in England you can use the English Bill of Right 1688 to back off any so called traffic violation.
For Scotland this line kills their paperwork dead in the water, "That the Imposeing of extraordinary fynes The exacting of exorbitant Baile and the disposeing of fynes and forefaultors befor sentence are Contrary to law" and in England:-
"And severall Grants and Promises made of Fines and Forfeitures before any Conviction or Judgement against the Persons upon whome the same were to be levyed. All which are utterly directly contrary to the knowne Lawes and Statutes and Freedome of this Realme."
I used this in Scotland back in 2012, and currently have sent this to a Council in England after I got a bus lane violation ticket on my way to my brothers funeral, currently waiting to hear back from the swines!
In law there must be a cause, a cause is someone claiming you did something wicked so if you know u have not cause any wicked act, refusal for cause, no cause in law so with honour you return it back to them, never sign your name unless its first name only or like queen elizabeth R. Or thumb print thats yours also no one else has it
Thanks Clare, where did you get that from? does "you are authorised to do the set-off" mean they can pay it? That's quite vague to me.
I verify all herein be true. This matter is now in true common law. Your offer to contract is hereby rejected with honor as unacceptable. I do not wish to contract nor do I consent to your jurisdiction. If you have a valid claim against the vessel or the estate you are authorized to do the set-off against the prepaid account as provided above, pay the taxes and tithes, setoff the public debt and return the estate to honour. Your failure to settle and close this matter within ten (10) days after receipt of this notice and provide me evidence of the transaction shall establish the evidence that your claim was NOT a valid claim. By: first name by the light of the ninth day of january two-thousand and thirteen nunc pro tunc to the first day of january two-thousand and thirteen
Refused for cause without dishonor